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Sharing Sox Podcast 133 — At least we’ll have the Yankees game
Never ones to shirk the major issues of the day, duty geezer Leigh Allan and his son and west coast corespondent, Will, delve deeply into the proposal made public on ESPN this week to cut down on pitcher injuries, increase the time players fans come to see are on the field, and boost offense by forcing starting pitchers to remain in a game for six innings or 100 pitches, whichever comes first, unless they get hurt. Do they solve the issue? Do they work out all the weaknesses in the idea? Do they save the game of baseball from itself? Do they have other absolutely terrific ideas for increasing offense and balls in play?
Well, er, uh …
Meanwhile, back at the White Sox, there’s is time for a little reveling in the 12-2 win over the Yankees before reality sets in and conjecture runs rampant on whether the Sox can overtake the 1962 expansion Mets to become the worst team in major league history (alright, sticklers, “modern” major league history). Can the march to history be ruined by playing six games against the Angels and three against the A’s in September?
And will somebody please help poor Miguel Vargas overcome the doldrums of being traded from the Dodgers to the White Sox?
Ah, the tension mounts.
Podcast Transcript
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Welcome to the Dog Days of
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Summer edition of Sharing Socks,
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although I guess this year
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for the White Sox they’re all Dog Days.
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I’m duty geezer Lee Allen,
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with me my son and West
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Coast correspondent Will,
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and we sitteth with 40
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games to go in the season.
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We’re recording this on the
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Friday prior to the series in Houston,
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after…
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The humongous win against the Yankees,
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which kind of disappeared
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over the next couple of days.
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But it was fun for a day.
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Anything to shut up Yankee fans.
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Even one day is worth.
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I mean,
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when you haven’t scored double
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digits all year,
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it’s fun to do it against the Yankees.
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It is.
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There was a moment where it looked like,
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because Grady Sizemore now
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is one and four.
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And there was a moment.
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where it looked Wednesday in
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the final game of the Yankee series,
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like the Sox were going to lose 4-2.
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And that would have meant
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that Sizemore would have
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had a 200 winning
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percentage and a positive
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run differential.
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And that would have been
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such a cool combination of stats to have.
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It would have been plus two runs.
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But then the Yankees decided
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to score eight more runs,
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and that went out the window.
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Well,
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it kind of felt like after the 12-2 loss,
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Juan Soto was like, this isn’t happening,
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you guys.
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I actually saw a crazy stat since, gosh,
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I think it was since July 1st.
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The only two teams that
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haven’t won five games at
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home are the White Sox and the Yankees.
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Oh.
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Isn’t that crazy?
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I mean, it’s not crazy for the White Sox.
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As we know,
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five wins at home would mean
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they’ve won five games since then,
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and they have not.
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And they certainly weren’t all at home.
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But the Yankees not winning
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five games at home in at least a month?
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It was 50 days.
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The last 50 days,
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the two teams that haven’t
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won five games at home were
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the Yankees and the White Sox.
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And yet the Yankees are
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still neck and neck with Baltimore.
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They are tied for first
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place in the AL East.
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Yeah,
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they go back and forth a half game on
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any given day.
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Yeah, I mean, that is wild.
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It certainly makes me think
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the Yankees probably aren’t
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going to get it done this year.
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I mean,
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I don’t think you go into the
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playoffs and kick butt if you,
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for some reason,
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can’t win in Yankee Stadium
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as the Yankees.
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It means they’re winning well on the road,
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which is the plus side there, I guess.
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But yeah, that stat blew my mind.
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Because usually when you see
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these things where it says,
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have you scored 10 runs in
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the last three months?
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And it shows every single
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team in baseball and then
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the White Sox on the other side.
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Uh,
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but this time it was the White Sox and
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the Yankees together, which,
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which I thought was, was pretty shocking.
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Uh, I mean, winning the one game was fun.
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Uh,
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it was fun to see all the White Sox
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fans be like, okay, size more.
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We have a fire under our butts.
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Now we’re going to start
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playing like we care,
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which of course was delusion.
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Um,
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Yes,
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it’s quite possible it worked for a day.
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But at the end of the day,
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you still have a bunch of
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guys who can’t really play
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Major League Baseball.
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You see a bunch of comments
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from people who went to games,
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whether the 12-2 win or one
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of the losses.
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But games since Sizemore took over.
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So the Cubs or Yankees series,
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which are the best sellers
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of the whole season by far
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for the obvious reason of
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who the opponents were.
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Dodgers too, but yeah.
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Yeah.
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and people who went go, well,
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you can feel there’s more energy.
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I said, really?
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You’re sitting in stands up in Section 512,
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and I can feel that a given
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individual ran hard or
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something like that,
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but I don’t think I can
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sense the energy down in the deck.
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Maybe they’re having fun.
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Maybe if you’re sitting down
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close in the big box seats,
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you can hear a little clever repartee.
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going on between them.
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But basically,
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I’m sure they do feel better.
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I mean, Griffo was such a doubter.
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And Sizemore apparently is a
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kind of gung-ho,
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let’s get out there and
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play and kick some butt if we can, guy,
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and enjoy the game,
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which is kind of important.
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um so but I i think I think
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if there’s if this team was
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made up of different people
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if this team was made up of
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23 year old star prospects
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who have just been getting
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their butt whooped because
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they’re 23 and then you
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bring the guy and you start
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winning I i think there’s a
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chance where I buy into the
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the energy is different narrative
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But it’s the same guys.
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And you’ve got no veteran
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leadership whatsoever, it seems.
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And your young guys, you know,
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aren’t really studs.
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So it’s not a scenario where
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I think a new manager can
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come in and actually change anything.
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I think that’s an
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unrealistic expectation of Sizemore.
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I think if Sizemore… I
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think he can at least not do harm.
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Correct.
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Correct.
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I don’t think he’s going to
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make things worse.
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I think bringing him in
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gives you the opportunity
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to not have the worst record ever,
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which I think under Grafal,
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it was kind of a guarantee.
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I really think we were at a
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point where it was a lock.
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that we weren’t going to get it done.
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I think with Sizemore,
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you now have a chance to
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not have the worst record ever.
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But at the end of the day,
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it’s still the same guys going out there.
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They’re still deflated.
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They’re still defeated.
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We’ve all seen at this point
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the Miguel Vargas poor guy
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sitting alone after coming
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over from the Dodgers who
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loved him in the clubhouse.
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And now he finds himself in
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the worst clubhouse.
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If I can download it into it,
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it is Dodger reflection on Vargas,
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on the Vargas scene and how
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loved he was by every other
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player in LA and just feel
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so bad for him.
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Yeah, I mean, I’m sure,
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did you see Tyler Glasnow’s interview?
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That’s the Glasnow interview.
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I want to try and insert
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that in the column if I can
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get it downloaded into it.
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Yeah, I mean, Tyler, he’s a stand-up guy,
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and when they ask him that, and
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he kind of laughs at first
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because it’s so sad.
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Like he can’t help but
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chuckle a little bit,
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but then goes on to say, you know,
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he was one of our favorite teammates,
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you know,
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one of the best guys in the
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clubhouse and was actually
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playing better for the
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Dodgers than he had in quite some time.
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And then to get shipped out into,
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can you just imagine,
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can you imagine that?
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You’re playing in L.A.
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to an average of forty nine
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thousand people and you are
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in first place.
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Granted,
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they are in the danger zone of
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losing that.
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But still, your teammates was Shohei Otani,
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Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman,
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Clayton Kershaw.
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And now you find yourself.
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in Chicago and on the wrong
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side of Chicago.
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And not that it would be a
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thrill to be a cub right now,
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but it’s certainly would
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not have the same feeling.
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And then he’s going to go to
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September where they’re
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going to be playing for, you know,
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6,000 people often.
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The only thing that they
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have going for them, I think in terms of-
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Yeah,
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he’s been a nightmare for the White Sox,
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but I’m sure that’s the deflating factor.
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The only thing the White Sox
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have going for them
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attendance-wise is we’re
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going to start getting that
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reverse success effect
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where people are going to
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want to be there for loss 121.
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Unfortunately,
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they end the season at Detroit.
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I know.
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But I think they can do it before that.
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So I’m thinking maybe I’m
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going to be covering loss 121.
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Right now, where they sit,
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I presume there are 40 games left.
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40 games is probably 13 series.
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I haven’t counted the series,
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but there are no two-game series left.
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So it’s 13 threes, 12 threes, and a four.
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Somebody’s a four-game series.
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So if they take just one
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game in each of those series –
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They’re lagging up at exactly 120.
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It’s just like tying the
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record on losses in a row.
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Oh, man.
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You don’t want to tie the record.
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If you’re going to be there, beat it.
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Yeah,
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because they’re in a position where
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they can’t win more than 12, right?
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But they are currently on pace,
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if you go by their winning percentage,
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to only win nine.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Their pace is to lose 123.
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But got a three game cushion there.
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But you know,
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it’s it’s it’s gonna be
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really interesting because
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you’ve got you’re going to Houston,
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you’ve got a really good chance,
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especially now that crochet
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is just terrible.
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You’ve got a really good
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chance to get swept in Houston.
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Houston has a lot to play for right now.
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You know, getting better.
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And they’re going to face…
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It looks like they’re
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facing Valdez at least.
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So that’s with Kai Busch on the mound.
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So that’s pretty much a guaranteed loss.
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Then they’re going to go to San Francisco,
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who still has something to play for.
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Is it realistic that San
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Francisco is in this mix
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with how hot the Padres and
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Diamondbacks are?
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Probably not.
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But the rest of the NL is so
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bad that there is a world where…
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you know, a San Francisco team,
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you could have everybody
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coming out of the West
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except the Rockies in these playoffs.
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So I,
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I do think that San Francisco will
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still be playing very hard.
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I mean,
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I think they’re one game over right now.
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Uh,
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They’re chasing a falling
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Dodgers team and the two
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hottest teams in baseball.
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But there’s a lot to play for there.
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Then they’re going to have Detroit,
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which is kind of a toss-up.
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However, in that toss-up,
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you have to face Tarek Skubal.
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which is your Cy Young favorite,
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that’s certainly not going to be easy.
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And then you’ve got Texas, the Mets,
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Baltimore, and Boston,
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who are all still trying to
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hang in there.
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Then you’ve got a Cleveland team,
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who is certainly…
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Best record in the American
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League is certainly going
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to want to sweep that
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series for mental purposes.
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For all sorts of reasons,
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they’re going to want to sweep that.
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The big issue they have is
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once you hit mid-September,
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you’ve got the Oakland…
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And then you’ve got two
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series against the Angels.
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And those are the big issues there.
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That puts you in the danger zone.
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And the fact that they’re at
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the end makes it even
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scarier because Oakland…
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I don’t even know if they’re
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going to field nine guys at that point.
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The Angels are so terrible
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right now that they could
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completely drop off,
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and I don’t know what kind
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of roster you’re going to see from them.
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I think they’ll get swept by
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the Padres in San Diego.
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But it is really dangerous.
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You got nine games in there
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with Oakland and the Angels.
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So I think in order to achieve this,
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they need to get swept
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quite a bit going into the
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rest of the year.
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Those three make me really,
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really nervous.
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I would love…
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love,
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love for the White Sox to get lost
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one 21 in San Diego.
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Uh, cause I would love to get down there.
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Weirdly,
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San Diego ticket prices are always
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insane.
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They sell out constantly.
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They are so popular for that series.
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They are $13.
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Uh,
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I’ve never been down to Petco.
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I love the idea of hopping in the car,
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going down to San Diego and
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catching loss 121.
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The other White Sox guys in LA,
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we’ve already talked about
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how we’re going to road
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trip together if that opportunity arises.
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I think it’s going to be
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bleak in guaranteed rate
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for the rest of the year
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until you creep close to that record.
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I think if the White Sox – You know,
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there are the people who do
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the statistical analyses of
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strength of schedule,
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and they tend to disagree
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because they have different
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algorithms on what they work with.
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But the two that I looked at
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both have – they have Sox
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at a different position and
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degree of difficulty in the ranking of 30,
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but both about in the middle.
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They really have about in
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the middle because of the
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three series you talked about.
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They’re a bunch of tough series,
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but they’re three.
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Really easy ones.
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Well, if you weren’t the White Sox,
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really easy ones.
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Right.
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They will be competitive for us,
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but they are games that we could win.
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Yeah.
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And, of course, it’ll depend.
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September,
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you don’t have the chance to
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bring up 40 guys like you used to,
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but you can bring up a couple more guys.
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And I would guess for the White Sox,
00:14:07.359 –> 00:14:07.979
it’ll be pitchers.
00:14:08.298 –> 00:14:09.139
They’ll be trying out some
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of the starting pitchers
00:14:10.140 –> 00:14:11.081
that have been doing pretty
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well in Birmingham and see how they do.
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And the other teams will
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probably do the same.
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I think with those
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projections that you see
00:14:20.678 –> 00:14:25.363
that have the White Sox around 116 losses,
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117, stuff like that,
00:14:27.244 –> 00:14:28.966
there’s a key stat in there
00:14:29.025 –> 00:14:30.067
that I don’t think gets
00:14:30.106 –> 00:14:31.748
highlighted enough in that projection.
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ICB, which I don’t know if you know ICB,
00:14:37.192 –> 00:14:39.315
but it’s a stat they use in
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these projections called,
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it can’t possibly be.
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It can’t possibly be.
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Oh, I messed it up.
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It’s IPB, Dana.
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No, it’s ICPB.
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ICPB.
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It can’t possibly be,
00:14:54.322 –> 00:14:56.601
which is we got to throw
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them a few more wins
00:14:57.903 –> 00:15:00.563
because they certainly can’t be this bad,
00:15:00.683 –> 00:15:00.923
right?
00:15:01.203 –> 00:15:04.164
It can’t possibly be this bad.
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Computers are still on 117.
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I think Dakota and Fangraphs
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are both still at 117.
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And that’s what I mean.
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I think those guys are
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making their projections being like, no,
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certainly it’s not 123.
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Certainly it’s not one.
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It can’t possibly be 123.
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But the crazy thing is it
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quite possibly could be.
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And we will see how that goes.
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I did hear something
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interesting talking about
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guaranteed rates.
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uh I have a buddy who’s
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coming out there in a
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couple weeks um and he’s
00:15:40.125 –> 00:15:41.645
gonna catch his first game
00:15:41.706 –> 00:15:43.905
at guaranteed rate and he
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he’s a big stadium guy he
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goes to a ton of stadiums
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and he has done a lot of
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research and has found out
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that if you have a 500
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level ticket you can now go
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to the 100 level yeah I
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think I think they gave
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that up this year it was
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just this there’s always
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just in general yeah I
00:16:00.529 –> 00:16:01.831
think I think there are no
00:16:01.910 –> 00:16:03.150
sales and you might as well
00:16:04.042 –> 00:16:04.822
treat people like they’re
00:16:04.842 –> 00:16:07.086
people instead of like- I
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honestly don’t even think it’s that.
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I think that’s a really generous thought.
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I think the reality- They
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don’t have any workers upstairs.
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Exactly.
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I think they don’t want to
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open anything up there.
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So basically what they’re saying is,
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look how nice we are.
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We let you go to the 100 level.
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But in reality,
00:16:26.115 –> 00:16:27.596
what they’re saying is you
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have to walk a mile to get your hot dog,
00:16:29.457 –> 00:16:29.739
buddy,
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because we’re not selling you one
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up here.
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No one’s going to be up here.
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Uh, so at least there’s that because my,
00:16:38.264 –> 00:16:39.645
my buddy’s very excited
00:16:39.706 –> 00:16:40.946
about the campfire shake
00:16:40.985 –> 00:16:41.966
and I’m sure you couldn’t
00:16:41.986 –> 00:16:44.227
get that on the 500 level, uh,
00:16:44.327 –> 00:16:45.749
at the one hot dog stand
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they’re going to have open.
00:16:47.409 –> 00:16:50.611
Uh, but at least they’re letting people.
00:16:50.631 –> 00:16:51.772
It’s not open at all.
00:16:52.312 –> 00:16:53.812
I mean, we’ve, we’ve been,
00:16:53.832 –> 00:16:55.134
or at least I’ve been to games where the,
00:16:55.153 –> 00:16:56.195
the upper deck is closed.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean,
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they’ve got a couple games coming
00:17:00.679 –> 00:17:01.360
up where they’re going to
00:17:01.421 –> 00:17:02.402
fill a little bit.
00:17:02.562 –> 00:17:04.705
I think the Frank Thomas
00:17:04.786 –> 00:17:05.887
bobblehead weekend.
00:17:05.907 –> 00:17:07.230
I was going to say the
00:17:07.309 –> 00:17:09.854
giveaways tend to be very successful.
00:17:10.818 –> 00:17:13.361
Yeah, and I think that’s a big enough one.
00:17:13.540 –> 00:17:14.781
What’s interesting is the
00:17:14.902 –> 00:17:16.503
White Sox don’t do a lot.
00:17:17.503 –> 00:17:19.586
They don’t do a high number of giveaways,
00:17:20.426 –> 00:17:21.667
which I guess you can’t
00:17:22.848 –> 00:17:26.372
because if you do 30,000 or 40,000,
00:17:26.372 –> 00:17:28.953
then you’re going to end up
00:17:29.034 –> 00:17:30.094
throwing away 20,000 giveaways.
00:17:33.317 –> 00:17:35.439
But they do a really small number.
00:17:36.779 –> 00:17:38.221
The Dodgers do the most.
00:17:38.240 –> 00:17:41.002
They do 40,000 of each giveaway.
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I think the Suns are typically 10.
00:17:44.904 –> 00:17:45.726
Yeah, yeah.
00:17:45.865 –> 00:17:49.748
And a lot of teams are in the 15,000,
00:17:49.748 –> 00:17:52.530
20,000 range for the marquee giveaways.
00:17:52.550 –> 00:17:54.813
The Dodgers do far more than anyone else,
00:17:54.913 –> 00:17:56.973
which they can because
00:17:57.433 –> 00:17:58.674
they’re going to have a
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first 40,000 at every game
00:18:00.936 –> 00:18:02.097
that there’s a giveaway for.
00:18:02.458 –> 00:18:03.219
They’re not going to have
00:18:03.259 –> 00:18:04.880
leftover giveaways on a
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40,000 giveaway day.
00:18:07.422 –> 00:18:09.443
But other teams would.
00:18:09.923 –> 00:18:10.204
Well,
00:18:10.325 –> 00:18:12.487
we do have something we want to talk
00:18:12.547 –> 00:18:14.689
about on this episode specifically.
00:18:14.828 –> 00:18:15.749
The proposed,
00:18:15.930 –> 00:18:16.930
some of you have probably
00:18:17.009 –> 00:18:18.832
read the article on ESPN or
00:18:18.872 –> 00:18:20.673
various sources about this
00:18:20.953 –> 00:18:21.875
six-inning series.
00:18:22.355 –> 00:18:24.435
starting pitcher minimum
00:18:24.896 –> 00:18:26.096
limit that they’re they’re
00:18:26.136 –> 00:18:27.798
wanting to do so we should
00:18:27.857 –> 00:18:29.980
take our break here uh and
00:18:30.039 –> 00:18:31.059
I think this is something
00:18:31.340 –> 00:18:34.102
really worth dissecting uh
00:18:34.323 –> 00:18:36.144
and and talking about as as
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for me I’m I’m such a big
00:18:38.325 –> 00:18:39.445
fan of starting pitching
00:18:39.986 –> 00:18:41.487
growing up in an era of
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starting pitchers that, you know,
00:18:44.410 –> 00:18:45.529
we all did, actually.
00:18:45.671 –> 00:18:46.570
Until this era,
00:18:46.631 –> 00:18:48.011
we all grew up in eras
00:18:48.053 –> 00:18:49.753
where starting pitchers mattered a ton.
00:18:50.513 –> 00:18:52.016
But for me as a kid, you know,
00:18:52.076 –> 00:18:53.396
it was Roger Clemens and
00:18:53.416 –> 00:18:55.377
Pedro Martinez and Randy Johnson,
00:18:55.458 –> 00:18:57.099
and starting pitchers were
00:18:57.119 –> 00:18:58.039
what got you in the
00:18:58.101 –> 00:19:00.281
building a lot of the time.
00:19:00.342 –> 00:19:02.144
So we’ll take a quick break here,
00:19:02.203 –> 00:19:03.164
and we will come back and
00:19:03.204 –> 00:19:05.145
talk about this proposed rule change.
00:19:05.767 –> 00:19:06.307
Hang in there.
00:19:06.406 –> 00:19:08.368
We’ll be right back on Sharing Socks.
00:19:10.623 –> 00:19:12.284
Welcome back to Sharon Sox.
00:19:12.364 –> 00:19:14.964
We dissected, you know,
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the continuation of the
00:19:18.767 –> 00:19:20.087
sadness and madness.
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And I didn’t even mention
00:19:21.288 –> 00:19:22.308
that there is no longer a
00:19:22.368 –> 00:19:23.608
single position player on
00:19:23.628 –> 00:19:25.289
the White Sox with a positive war.
00:19:27.131 –> 00:19:29.991
I’m sorry, with a positive war either,
00:19:30.152 –> 00:19:31.393
but a positive OPS.
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OPS plus of 100, of course,
00:19:34.074 –> 00:19:35.974
is league average by definition.
00:19:36.015 –> 00:19:36.816
They set it to that.
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And there’s not a single
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White Sox position player
00:19:40.680 –> 00:19:43.060
with an OPS plus of 100 or more.
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That makes Luis Robert look really bad.
00:19:48.345 –> 00:19:49.925
Moncada is over, but, of course,
00:19:49.965 –> 00:19:51.626
Moncada’s probably not going to play,
00:19:51.686 –> 00:19:53.387
so that doesn’t really count.
00:19:54.228 –> 00:19:54.548
Man,
00:19:54.588 –> 00:19:56.750
that is a stat that makes Luis Robert
00:19:56.789 –> 00:19:58.711
look like he is absolutely
00:19:59.251 –> 00:20:00.011
screwing it up.
00:20:00.531 –> 00:20:03.294
He, well, he’s hitting, well,
00:20:03.693 –> 00:20:04.515
let me tell you here.
00:20:05.075 –> 00:20:06.195
Since the All-Star game,
00:20:06.256 –> 00:20:08.446
he is hitting 135.
00:20:08.446 –> 00:20:09.768
Wow.
00:20:10.048 –> 00:20:12.851
43 strikeouts in 92 plate appearances.
00:20:14.692 –> 00:20:15.153
Wow.
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And he was even quoted the other day,
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and it’s not, he didn’t say, I give up.
00:20:19.997 –> 00:20:20.938
He was saying, well,
00:20:20.958 –> 00:20:21.919
I just almost feel like
00:20:21.939 –> 00:20:23.140
giving up because it’s so awful.
00:20:24.201 –> 00:20:25.321
And he doesn’t talk much.
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He’s a very quiet guy.
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And if he’s talking like that,
00:20:31.606 –> 00:20:33.848
he’s got to really, really,
00:20:34.108 –> 00:20:35.069
really feel bad.
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But anyhow, that’s not the story.
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I mean,
00:20:38.003 –> 00:20:39.565
when you have more strikeouts since
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the All-Star break than
00:20:40.704 –> 00:20:42.385
Tony Gwynn had in the 90s,
00:20:43.506 –> 00:20:45.766
you certainly have to be
00:20:45.806 –> 00:20:46.926
feeling kind of bad there.
00:20:47.426 –> 00:20:48.366
But let’s talk about this
00:20:48.426 –> 00:20:49.307
new proposed rule.
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So the idea is that a
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starting pitcher will have
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to stay in the game,
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will have to pitch six innings,
00:21:00.710 –> 00:21:02.550
unless they throw 100 pitches,
00:21:04.738 –> 00:21:07.039
they give up four or more runs,
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or they are injured in a
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way that will put them on the eye out.
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That’s a pretty massive role.
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It would have to be an
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adjustment because I think
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pitchers leave games for
00:21:18.488 –> 00:21:19.548
blisters all the time,
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and that shouldn’t be a
00:21:21.730 –> 00:21:22.530
mandatory eye out.
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I understand why it’s there
00:21:23.912 –> 00:21:24.952
so you don’t fake it, but
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Because everybody would fake
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it all the time.
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Everyone would fake it all the time.
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This rule would never affect
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the White Sox because we
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don’t have any pitchers that
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don’t go 100 pitches before
00:21:36.769 –> 00:21:37.750
they get to six innings.
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Well, which leads me to, you know,
00:21:41.471 –> 00:21:42.511
why we don’t have pitchers
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that don’t go six innings,
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because they all throw 100
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pitches by the fourth.
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So, you know,
00:21:47.614 –> 00:21:49.055
I think it was Brandon Gomes
00:21:49.075 –> 00:21:49.775
that might have been for
00:21:49.795 –> 00:21:52.596
the Dodgers after this proposal was made,
00:21:53.135 –> 00:21:54.115
where he just said,
00:21:54.596 –> 00:21:55.537
you’re just going to let
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your pitchers run up the
00:21:56.936 –> 00:21:58.238
count to get to 100.
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Yeah.
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And you’re going to have a
00:22:01.618 –> 00:22:03.858
painfully slow first four innings.
00:22:04.400 –> 00:22:05.319
And then you’re still going
00:22:05.339 –> 00:22:06.420
to see the bullpen in the
00:22:06.480 –> 00:22:08.040
fifth and the sixth.
00:22:08.361 –> 00:22:12.021
And that would be my biggest concern.
00:22:12.561 –> 00:22:15.442
My biggest concern is that they’ll say, OK,
00:22:16.002 –> 00:22:16.303
well,
00:22:16.863 –> 00:22:18.463
you’re not going to change our
00:22:18.523 –> 00:22:20.345
strategy with this rule.
00:22:20.845 –> 00:22:22.265
All you’re going to do is
00:22:22.345 –> 00:22:24.506
allow us to throw a lot more balls.
00:22:26.578 –> 00:22:27.720
you’re going to allow us to
00:22:27.779 –> 00:22:28.820
dance around the strike
00:22:28.840 –> 00:22:32.482
zone a lot more because if
00:22:32.542 –> 00:22:34.505
we just got to get to that 100 pitch mark,
00:22:34.545 –> 00:22:34.704
well,
00:22:34.724 –> 00:22:36.567
we don’t care if you average 25
00:22:36.567 –> 00:22:37.366
pitches an inning.
00:22:38.647 –> 00:22:39.648
It doesn’t change the game
00:22:39.689 –> 00:22:40.430
that much for us.
00:22:40.690 –> 00:22:42.090
You’re out after four or
00:22:42.131 –> 00:22:43.172
you’re out after five.
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Starting pitchers are going –
00:22:47.528 –> 00:22:49.931
the least far into games as
00:22:49.971 –> 00:22:51.872
they ever ever ever have
00:22:52.032 –> 00:22:56.455
every year we’re now at
00:22:56.576 –> 00:22:58.557
just above five I think
00:22:58.577 –> 00:22:59.759
it’s 5.13 maybe it was the
00:22:59.778 –> 00:23:01.940
number right I saw recently
00:23:02.540 –> 00:23:03.500
something right around
00:23:03.540 –> 00:23:04.662
there which is really
00:23:04.721 –> 00:23:06.763
pathetic I mean it’s that
00:23:06.844 –> 00:23:08.464
that is a different game
00:23:08.704 –> 00:23:12.488
entirely uh than even the 90s early 2000s
00:23:15.250 –> 00:23:16.391
Oh, no.
00:23:16.730 –> 00:23:17.832
They were around six then.
00:23:18.031 –> 00:23:19.673
It was around 5.98 or
00:23:19.732 –> 00:23:20.833
something in the early 2000s.
00:23:20.873 –> 00:23:22.753
That’s a big difference.
00:23:23.474 –> 00:23:25.135
The reasons for this idea,
00:23:25.155 –> 00:23:26.236
and it would take years to
00:23:26.296 –> 00:23:27.116
implement because you’d
00:23:27.136 –> 00:23:30.617
have to work pitchers through the minors.
00:23:30.637 –> 00:23:31.699
Some are saying even to the
00:23:31.798 –> 00:23:33.279
amateur ranks would have to change.
00:23:33.880 –> 00:23:36.201
Although in colleges,
00:23:36.221 –> 00:23:37.342
it seems they never go more
00:23:37.362 –> 00:23:37.882
than three innings.
00:23:37.922 –> 00:23:40.844
But at any rate, one reason is
00:23:42.576 –> 00:23:43.578
because of starting pitchers.
00:23:43.618 –> 00:23:44.259
We used to say,
00:23:44.400 –> 00:23:45.422
people come to games to see
00:23:45.461 –> 00:23:46.123
starting pitchers,
00:23:46.143 –> 00:23:47.365
then the starting pitcher’s gone,
00:23:48.185 –> 00:23:50.128
and nobody comes to see the bullpen.
00:23:50.970 –> 00:23:52.492
There are a couple of exceptions to that,
00:23:52.532 –> 00:23:53.694
but by and large,
00:23:53.734 –> 00:23:56.137
people do not come to see the bullpen.
00:23:56.637 –> 00:23:56.897
I mean,
00:23:56.917 –> 00:23:58.577
if they’re coming to see the bullpen,
00:23:59.219 –> 00:24:00.979
it’s not that they’re coming to see it.
00:24:01.199 –> 00:24:02.699
First off, there’s only one scenario,
00:24:02.739 –> 00:24:04.299
and that’s if you have a famous closer.
00:24:04.859 –> 00:24:06.119
If you have Liam Hendricks,
00:24:06.619 –> 00:24:07.461
there will be people who
00:24:07.500 –> 00:24:08.881
want to see Liam Hendricks pitch.
00:24:08.921 –> 00:24:10.141
But they’re still not coming
00:24:10.181 –> 00:24:12.402
to the game to see Liam
00:24:12.442 –> 00:24:13.761
Hendricks pitch because you
00:24:13.801 –> 00:24:15.823
have no clue if he’s going to pitch.
00:24:16.343 –> 00:24:17.603
Right.
00:24:17.623 –> 00:24:18.563
So part of it is that.
00:24:18.643 –> 00:24:20.384
Part of it is the PR thing
00:24:20.423 –> 00:24:21.564
of having the pitchers go.
00:24:23.084 –> 00:24:25.585
Part of it, a big part of it is,
00:24:26.345 –> 00:24:29.768
that they want to cut injuries.
00:24:30.567 –> 00:24:32.190
And the idea is if they have
00:24:32.230 –> 00:24:33.351
to go that deep,
00:24:34.352 –> 00:24:35.311
that they will not be
00:24:35.352 –> 00:24:37.433
throwing 100 miles an hour.
00:24:37.453 –> 00:24:40.135
And if you have to go more
00:24:40.375 –> 00:24:43.019
on control and command than
00:24:43.098 –> 00:24:44.299
on sheer velocity,
00:24:44.940 –> 00:24:46.761
that it will change the game,
00:24:46.842 –> 00:24:49.423
probably create more offense,
00:24:49.503 –> 00:24:50.565
which major leagues want,
00:24:51.384 –> 00:24:53.446
but also cut down on Tommy Johns.
00:24:53.727 –> 00:24:54.508
I tried to look up.
00:24:55.369 –> 00:24:57.451
Whether more starters than relievers,
00:24:57.490 –> 00:24:58.451
what the percentage is of
00:24:58.491 –> 00:24:59.472
starters and relievers who
00:24:59.512 –> 00:25:01.394
have Tommy John, I can’t find that.
00:25:01.433 –> 00:25:03.776
It’s probably somewhere online,
00:25:03.796 –> 00:25:05.057
but I can’t find it.
00:25:05.436 –> 00:25:05.836
And of course,
00:25:06.198 –> 00:25:07.117
some people aren’t defined
00:25:07.178 –> 00:25:08.118
by starter relievers,
00:25:08.138 –> 00:25:09.940
so it becomes shady anyway.
00:25:10.500 –> 00:25:13.923
But I don’t know that that makes it.
00:25:14.143 –> 00:25:16.144
You had thought as an
00:25:16.204 –> 00:25:17.404
ex-pitcher that when the
00:25:17.525 –> 00:25:18.465
shot clock came in,
00:25:19.346 –> 00:25:20.346
that we would not see the
00:25:20.346 –> 00:25:21.667
100 mile an hour pitches
00:25:21.748 –> 00:25:22.588
because the pitchers
00:25:22.628 –> 00:25:23.990
wouldn’t have all that time to
00:25:24.480 –> 00:25:25.380
kind of stroll around the
00:25:25.400 –> 00:25:26.279
mound to get their breath
00:25:26.339 –> 00:25:27.921
back and get ready for the next pitch.
00:25:28.300 –> 00:25:29.641
It turns out they’re just
00:25:29.721 –> 00:25:30.661
really good at getting
00:25:30.721 –> 00:25:31.701
ready for the next pitch.
00:25:31.780 –> 00:25:33.182
It hasn’t made any difference at all.
00:25:33.201 –> 00:25:33.461
Well,
00:25:33.561 –> 00:25:36.781
they are and they aren’t because what
00:25:36.821 –> 00:25:38.742
they are doing is they’re not saying,
00:25:39.182 –> 00:25:41.262
okay, I got to focus more on command.
00:25:41.363 –> 00:25:43.084
I got to focus more on control.
00:25:43.463 –> 00:25:45.183
What they’re saying is I’m
00:25:45.203 –> 00:25:46.364
going to throw it 100 miles
00:25:46.403 –> 00:25:48.345
an hour until my arm falls off.
00:25:49.045 –> 00:25:49.904
And they are –
00:25:50.904 –> 00:25:52.467
They are not using this
00:25:52.527 –> 00:25:53.948
opportunity to retool
00:25:53.988 –> 00:25:55.210
pitching in any way.
00:25:55.569 –> 00:25:57.751
They are pitching the exact same way.
00:25:57.771 –> 00:26:01.236
I mean, everybody is getting Tommy John.
00:26:01.955 –> 00:26:03.617
Everybody is getting it.
00:26:04.419 –> 00:26:06.101
Any pitcher who comes up right now,
00:26:06.300 –> 00:26:07.821
if they’re throwing 100 miles an hour,
00:26:08.123 –> 00:26:09.284
you’re getting Tommy John.
00:26:09.604 –> 00:26:11.526
Paul Skeens is probably
00:26:11.787 –> 00:26:12.707
going to be the first guy
00:26:12.728 –> 00:26:13.769
to have four of them.
00:26:14.429 –> 00:26:15.829
It is crazy.
00:26:15.890 –> 00:26:17.991
I mean, the Dodgers just lost River Ryan,
00:26:18.751 –> 00:26:21.453
a stud who just came up, throws gas,
00:26:21.875 –> 00:26:23.336
was looking incredible.
00:26:23.715 –> 00:26:25.698
All of a sudden, elbow discomfort,
00:26:25.817 –> 00:26:26.758
done for the year.
00:26:27.138 –> 00:26:28.779
It’s happening with almost
00:26:29.059 –> 00:26:31.102
every single stud prospect
00:26:31.142 –> 00:26:31.961
that’s coming up.
00:26:32.323 –> 00:26:34.144
It’s going to continue to happen.
00:26:34.564 –> 00:26:36.526
So I understand that.
00:26:37.086 –> 00:26:39.488
the logic behind if I have
00:26:39.528 –> 00:26:42.631
to go further in this mindset,
00:26:42.730 –> 00:26:43.291
in this world,
00:26:43.632 –> 00:26:45.773
I understand the logic of I
00:26:45.814 –> 00:26:46.974
have to go further in the
00:26:47.015 –> 00:26:49.737
game so I can’t blow out my arm as much.
00:26:50.198 –> 00:26:53.140
However, based on what Brandon Gomes said,
00:26:53.500 –> 00:26:55.682
which is if it’s just 100 pitches,
00:26:56.262 –> 00:26:58.065
if we can get them out at 100 pitches,
00:26:58.444 –> 00:26:59.766
then you don’t actually
00:26:59.846 –> 00:27:01.448
have to make it to the sixth inning.
00:27:02.327 –> 00:27:03.948
And in that scenario,
00:27:04.409 –> 00:27:05.588
you just go out and you
00:27:05.608 –> 00:27:06.628
throw a hundred miles an
00:27:06.669 –> 00:27:08.109
hour until you hit a
00:27:08.150 –> 00:27:08.990
hundred pitches in the
00:27:09.089 –> 00:27:09.990
fourth or the fifth.
00:27:10.369 –> 00:27:12.030
And then you’re, then they take you out.
00:27:12.590 –> 00:27:14.090
And that does nothing,
00:27:14.810 –> 00:27:16.731
nothing at all to derail
00:27:17.092 –> 00:27:18.231
what is going on with these
00:27:18.291 –> 00:27:19.432
Tommy John scenarios.
00:27:20.472 –> 00:27:21.313
It changes nothing
00:27:21.452 –> 00:27:22.972
whatsoever in how they’re
00:27:23.012 –> 00:27:24.453
going to approach each pitch.
00:27:25.233 –> 00:27:25.493
And again,
00:27:27.027 –> 00:27:28.107
Major League Baseball says
00:27:28.327 –> 00:27:29.588
we want more offense.
00:27:29.648 –> 00:27:30.730
We want more offense.
00:27:31.150 –> 00:27:32.431
This could lead to more offense.
00:27:32.810 –> 00:27:34.291
Well, what do pitchers want?
00:27:34.811 –> 00:27:38.115
Pitchers want less offense.
00:27:38.295 –> 00:27:39.394
There’s no point where a
00:27:39.434 –> 00:27:41.997
pitcher is ever going to say, oh, well,
00:27:42.037 –> 00:27:43.778
the league wants more offense,
00:27:44.439 –> 00:27:45.960
so I’m going to give it to them.
00:27:47.401 –> 00:27:48.561
I think I’ll put this one right.
00:27:48.722 –> 00:27:49.703
I’m going to hang a slider
00:27:49.723 –> 00:27:50.845
in the middle of the plate
00:27:51.144 –> 00:27:52.226
to see what happens.
00:27:52.606 –> 00:27:52.787
Yeah,
00:27:52.946 –> 00:27:55.089
I’m going to cut my fastball down to
00:27:55.089 –> 00:27:55.789
92 and I’m going to take
00:27:55.829 –> 00:27:56.550
the movement off.
00:27:56.912 –> 00:27:58.933
Like it’s just never,
00:27:59.134 –> 00:28:00.295
ever going to happen where
00:28:00.655 –> 00:28:01.477
these guys are.
00:28:01.896 –> 00:28:03.578
Well, they should be this competitive.
00:28:03.679 –> 00:28:05.161
So this is not a slam that
00:28:05.181 –> 00:28:06.201
they’re too competitive.
00:28:06.442 –> 00:28:07.022
Exactly.
00:28:07.502 –> 00:28:09.444
They should be going out there saying,
00:28:09.664 –> 00:28:12.607
I want zero runs to score.
00:28:12.708 –> 00:28:14.128
There’s no world, you know,
00:28:14.269 –> 00:28:17.311
even in slow pitch softball, of course,
00:28:17.352 –> 00:28:19.133
zero is unrealistic.
00:28:19.472 –> 00:28:20.134
But you’re like,
00:28:20.374 –> 00:28:22.955
I want less than 15 runs to
00:28:22.996 –> 00:28:23.856
score this game.
00:28:24.298 –> 00:28:26.078
I’m never going up there saying, okay,
00:28:26.179 –> 00:28:27.460
I’m fine with giving up 30
00:28:27.460 –> 00:28:29.902
because we’ll try to score 31.
00:28:29.902 –> 00:28:31.442
It just doesn’t happen.
00:28:32.103 –> 00:28:33.623
Sometimes you give up 30,
00:28:33.623 –> 00:28:35.923
but you never make that your goal.
00:28:36.784 –> 00:28:38.224
There is no world where the
00:28:38.265 –> 00:28:39.765
pitchers go out there and say,
00:28:40.325 –> 00:28:41.326
I’m going to cut it back
00:28:41.385 –> 00:28:43.066
because I got to get through the sixth.
00:28:43.865 –> 00:28:45.646
And if that leads to more offense,
00:28:45.886 –> 00:28:46.547
so be it.
00:28:46.666 –> 00:28:48.147
That’s great for the game.
00:28:50.028 –> 00:28:50.728
It doesn’t exist.
00:28:50.828 –> 00:28:51.528
It’s a pipe dream.
00:28:51.548 –> 00:28:53.489
There’s some corollaries to
00:28:53.528 –> 00:28:55.690
that that are also under discussion.
00:28:55.750 –> 00:28:57.150
Again, these things are years away.
00:28:57.550 –> 00:28:58.570
It’s an interesting thought.
00:29:00.112 –> 00:29:03.594
One is to mandate, you know,
00:29:03.614 –> 00:29:04.454
they’ve made the rule now
00:29:04.515 –> 00:29:06.696
on three batters for a
00:29:07.396 –> 00:29:09.159
relief pitcher to increase
00:29:09.199 –> 00:29:13.862
that to five so that you
00:29:13.882 –> 00:29:15.143
can’t have as much turnover
00:29:15.163 –> 00:29:15.903
in relief pitchers.
00:29:15.923 –> 00:29:17.325
They’ve got to go a little bit longer.
00:29:18.025 –> 00:29:19.566
I don’t know what impact it
00:29:19.586 –> 00:29:21.448
has on how fast they throw,
00:29:21.567 –> 00:29:22.228
how hard they throw.
00:29:22.268 –> 00:29:23.709
I can’t think going to five
00:29:23.789 –> 00:29:25.069
makes much of a difference
00:29:25.089 –> 00:29:27.311
because they often go to five anyway,
00:29:27.451 –> 00:29:28.313
whether they want to or not.
00:29:29.446 –> 00:29:32.690
Another possibility was
00:29:32.930 –> 00:29:35.271
cutting down the number of
00:29:35.372 –> 00:29:38.974
pitchers on us permitted on the team.
00:29:40.375 –> 00:29:43.959
And what somebody commented on that was,
00:29:43.979 –> 00:29:46.800
it was in the ESPN article,
00:29:46.840 –> 00:29:47.842
one of the follow-ups maybe,
00:29:48.382 –> 00:29:52.486
that the union would not
00:29:52.526 –> 00:29:53.006
put up with that.
00:29:56.128 –> 00:29:58.190
because of any limitations on players.
00:29:58.309 –> 00:30:00.711
It’s just the union is going to fight.
00:30:00.751 –> 00:30:01.271
Of course they are.
00:30:01.372 –> 00:30:03.012
That’s their job.
00:30:04.413 –> 00:30:05.253
But then the thought was,
00:30:05.314 –> 00:30:06.354
what if you did this at the
00:30:06.433 –> 00:30:09.375
same time as expansion so
00:30:09.395 –> 00:30:10.096
that there were actually
00:30:10.355 –> 00:30:13.117
more players in the majors, just one,
00:30:13.518 –> 00:30:14.759
like if you went down to 25
00:30:14.759 –> 00:30:15.479
players on the team,
00:30:15.479 –> 00:30:16.819
12 of whom could be pitchers,
00:30:17.380 –> 00:30:19.080
but you’ve got two new teams out here,
00:30:19.141 –> 00:30:20.141
so that more than makes up
00:30:20.201 –> 00:30:21.902
for the loss on there.
00:30:22.402 –> 00:30:23.542
You’ve actually added players.
00:30:24.561 –> 00:30:25.061
I mean,
00:30:25.103 –> 00:30:26.644
there are just so many
00:30:26.703 –> 00:30:27.724
technicalities on this.
00:30:27.964 –> 00:30:28.826
But the real question is,
00:30:29.365 –> 00:30:32.868
would it really help with injuries?
00:30:35.151 –> 00:30:36.251
I don’t see how it would.
00:30:36.852 –> 00:30:39.914
I don’t see how the – first off,
00:30:40.035 –> 00:30:43.157
the three – facing three –
00:30:43.157 –> 00:30:44.858
the three batters to five
00:30:44.898 –> 00:30:46.901
batters thing or whatever,
00:30:47.240 –> 00:30:51.174
that’s just – that is like, you know –
00:30:51.174 –> 00:30:52.256
putting a blindfold on and
00:30:52.276 –> 00:30:53.457
throwing darts at something
00:30:53.537 –> 00:30:54.458
to see if that works.
00:30:54.939 –> 00:30:55.239
I,
00:30:55.659 –> 00:30:58.741
I don’t see any value in that whatsoever.
00:30:59.001 –> 00:30:59.903
I truly don’t.
00:31:00.002 –> 00:31:00.242
I mean,
00:31:00.303 –> 00:31:02.464
I guess you’re saying we do that
00:31:02.506 –> 00:31:03.646
and then you have one less
00:31:03.666 –> 00:31:04.988
guy in the bullpen and that
00:31:05.067 –> 00:31:08.810
kind of offsets that if you, but what,
00:31:08.911 –> 00:31:10.553
what is this world we’re
00:31:10.593 –> 00:31:12.114
coming to in baseball where
00:31:12.134 –> 00:31:13.415
you bring a reliever in,
00:31:13.955 –> 00:31:15.116
he’s got a phase three,
00:31:15.798 –> 00:31:16.778
all three guys are,
00:31:18.066 –> 00:31:20.067
just crank this pitcher and
00:31:20.086 –> 00:31:20.928
then you got to keep them
00:31:20.988 –> 00:31:22.087
in for two more guys.
00:31:22.107 –> 00:31:25.509
I understood the move to get
00:31:25.630 –> 00:31:27.471
rid of the loogies to get
00:31:27.551 –> 00:31:29.772
rid of the one out lefty guys.
00:31:30.272 –> 00:31:31.834
It was really slowing down the game.
00:31:31.854 –> 00:31:33.214
It was really boring.
00:31:33.775 –> 00:31:35.556
But I don’t understand
00:31:35.655 –> 00:31:36.797
saying if we bring a
00:31:36.856 –> 00:31:38.617
reliever in and it’s not his day,
00:31:38.678 –> 00:31:39.959
he has to go through five
00:31:40.078 –> 00:31:41.380
batters no matter what.
00:31:42.299 –> 00:31:44.461
It just doesn’t feel like baseball.
00:31:44.481 –> 00:31:45.282
It doesn’t feel like
00:31:45.462 –> 00:31:46.844
baseball strategy to me.
00:31:47.223 –> 00:31:49.026
It certainly has nothing to
00:31:49.066 –> 00:31:49.826
do with injuries.
00:31:50.047 –> 00:31:50.326
I mean,
00:31:50.626 –> 00:31:51.907
if you’ve got a guy who goes out
00:31:51.948 –> 00:31:53.849
there and he’s just getting shellacked,
00:31:54.269 –> 00:31:55.211
he’s going to be doing
00:31:55.270 –> 00:31:56.932
things that he should not
00:31:56.991 –> 00:31:59.914
be doing to try to not be shellacked.
00:32:00.375 –> 00:32:02.175
And I don’t see how that can
00:32:02.215 –> 00:32:03.617
help you in the injury world.
00:32:04.198 –> 00:32:05.739
having fewer guys in the
00:32:05.778 –> 00:32:07.059
bullpen doesn’t seem like
00:32:07.140 –> 00:32:08.721
it can help you in the injury world,
00:32:09.061 –> 00:32:10.403
because all that means is
00:32:10.623 –> 00:32:12.703
you got more strain on those guys.
00:32:13.224 –> 00:32:14.746
As you move deeper into the season,
00:32:14.786 –> 00:32:16.906
you’ve got more tired arms in September,
00:32:17.007 –> 00:32:18.828
tired arms lead to injured arms.
00:32:20.148 –> 00:32:22.089
I don’t even understand how that works.
00:32:22.230 –> 00:32:25.051
So there’s so much fear
00:32:25.592 –> 00:32:26.893
about this sixth inning
00:32:26.932 –> 00:32:27.873
thing and about these
00:32:27.932 –> 00:32:29.153
potential changes to the
00:32:29.193 –> 00:32:31.634
bullpen that just don’t
00:32:31.974 –> 00:32:33.615
seem to actually form a
00:32:33.695 –> 00:32:36.676
cohesive answer for how to A,
00:32:37.137 –> 00:32:39.097
keep guys from getting hurt, and B,
00:32:39.519 –> 00:32:42.339
get more offense going in
00:32:42.359 –> 00:32:43.320
Major League Baseball.
00:32:44.161 –> 00:32:46.382
I just wrote a bit because of the health.
00:32:47.199 –> 00:32:49.020
much it pertains to 2004,
00:32:49.020 –> 00:32:50.362
about the 1970 White Sox,
00:32:50.402 –> 00:32:51.261
which are the team that had
00:32:51.281 –> 00:32:52.564
the most losses of any
00:32:52.584 –> 00:32:54.025
White Sox team ever, 106 of them.
00:32:55.026 –> 00:32:58.288
And what changes were made after that,
00:32:58.307 –> 00:32:59.088
because they improved
00:32:59.388 –> 00:33:01.211
dramatically over the next
00:33:01.250 –> 00:33:03.712
two years in ways that this team, frankly,
00:33:04.153 –> 00:33:05.894
just cannot.
00:33:07.695 –> 00:33:09.478
But one of the things in the
00:33:09.518 –> 00:33:11.480
process of doing that was
00:33:11.619 –> 00:33:14.021
looking at the innings that
00:33:14.041 –> 00:33:15.502
the starting pitchers threw
00:33:17.397 –> 00:33:19.558
And I don’t have them written down here,
00:33:19.578 –> 00:33:22.619
but Wilbur Wood was a knuckleball pitcher,
00:33:22.660 –> 00:33:23.000
of course.
00:33:23.441 –> 00:33:25.000
So all he’s doing basically
00:33:25.020 –> 00:33:27.362
is playing catch with the catcher.
00:33:27.961 –> 00:33:29.682
And he throws 350 innings a year,
00:33:29.702 –> 00:33:30.804
and he probably could have thrown 450.
00:33:30.804 –> 00:33:33.325
The guy was incredible.
00:33:34.305 –> 00:33:37.625
But even the other pitchers were up 250,
00:33:37.625 –> 00:33:38.026
260, 280.
00:33:38.026 –> 00:33:41.248
Just, you know, Stan Bonson,
00:33:41.268 –> 00:33:41.988
those kind of guys.
00:33:42.167 –> 00:33:42.748
Tommy John,
00:33:43.769 –> 00:33:45.148
who had Tommy John surgery two
00:33:45.189 –> 00:33:45.650
years later.
00:33:45.670 –> 00:33:46.289
Yeah.
00:33:47.961 –> 00:33:51.103
And that’s my other bet.
00:33:51.262 –> 00:33:52.104
Tommy John’s got to be in
00:33:52.124 –> 00:33:52.683
the Hall of Fame because
00:33:52.723 –> 00:33:53.683
he’s the most famous
00:33:53.784 –> 00:33:54.804
ex-ball player that ever
00:33:54.865 –> 00:33:56.184
lived because his name is
00:33:56.265 –> 00:33:57.806
out in the news every day.
00:33:58.486 –> 00:34:00.165
And he’s only getting more famous.
00:34:00.246 –> 00:34:01.586
He’s probably the only
00:34:01.727 –> 00:34:02.866
old-timer who’s getting
00:34:03.067 –> 00:34:05.528
more famous every year,
00:34:05.627 –> 00:34:07.048
even though nobody really,
00:34:07.669 –> 00:34:10.090
outside of White Sox fans or a few others,
00:34:10.110 –> 00:34:12.311
know where he played or what he did.
00:34:12.831 –> 00:34:13.951
He was a terrific pitcher.
00:34:13.971 –> 00:34:15.351
He was a great pitcher.
00:34:17.409 –> 00:34:19.253
Oh, he was a great pitcher.
00:34:19.994 –> 00:34:22.259
But he’s not famous for the 63 War.
00:34:22.900 –> 00:34:23.061
No,
00:34:23.081 –> 00:34:24.664
he’s famous for being on an operating
00:34:24.684 –> 00:34:24.925
table.
00:34:25.722 –> 00:34:29.045
yeah and and yeah so I I’m
00:34:29.085 –> 00:34:30.347
not I’m not one of those
00:34:30.588 –> 00:34:33.289
I’m not a I’m not a a
00:34:33.550 –> 00:34:35.532
baseball conservative on
00:34:35.612 –> 00:34:36.753
things need to stay the
00:34:36.793 –> 00:34:38.335
same things need to I’m
00:34:38.414 –> 00:34:39.876
actually a big fan of the
00:34:39.916 –> 00:34:41.697
pitch clock I’m a big fan
00:34:41.737 –> 00:34:43.980
of the bigger bases uh I
00:34:44.079 –> 00:34:45.460
like some of the changes of
00:34:45.541 –> 00:34:47.043
course I I’ve never I’m
00:34:47.083 –> 00:34:48.204
never gonna like the ghost
00:34:48.264 –> 00:34:49.144
runner at second
00:34:50.226 –> 00:34:52.827
um but I’m only okay with it
00:34:52.907 –> 00:34:54.048
because they don’t do it in
00:34:54.088 –> 00:34:56.391
the post season uh if they
00:34:56.431 –> 00:34:57.592
did it in the post season
00:34:57.771 –> 00:34:58.913
that would just be annoying
00:34:59.092 –> 00:35:01.735
but I kind of get it for
00:35:01.755 –> 00:35:02.876
the regular season but I
00:35:02.916 –> 00:35:04.978
don’t like it I don’t like
00:35:05.117 –> 00:35:07.320
that rule I’m not I’m not a
00:35:07.360 –> 00:35:08.260
purist when it comes to
00:35:08.300 –> 00:35:09.621
these things but I just
00:35:10.619 –> 00:35:12.420
this this six inning thing
00:35:12.460 –> 00:35:13.721
and these possible bullpen
00:35:13.760 –> 00:35:15.561
changes I don’t think they
00:35:15.621 –> 00:35:18.541
are fleshed out ideas on
00:35:18.682 –> 00:35:20.043
how to really change
00:35:20.163 –> 00:35:22.224
anything uh in terms of
00:35:22.264 –> 00:35:24.244
injury or or offensive run
00:35:24.543 –> 00:35:26.864
I mean I love the idea that
00:35:27.164 –> 00:35:28.224
when you implement this
00:35:28.286 –> 00:35:29.186
rule all of a sudden
00:35:29.226 –> 00:35:30.746
everyone’s got to watch you
00:35:30.786 –> 00:35:31.927
know hours of footage of
00:35:31.967 –> 00:35:33.246
greg maddox and figured out
00:35:33.306 –> 00:35:34.907
how he did that for all those years but
00:35:36.829 –> 00:35:38.471
that’s just not the reality
00:35:39.130 –> 00:35:40.391
of the game right now.
00:35:40.431 –> 00:35:42.454
I mean, the hitters are too good.
00:35:43.034 –> 00:35:44.275
So these guys are going to
00:35:44.315 –> 00:35:46.237
have to figure out how to
00:35:46.277 –> 00:35:47.659
throw a hundred miles an hour,
00:35:47.759 –> 00:35:48.559
no matter what.
00:35:49.021 –> 00:35:50.382
And I think the answer to
00:35:50.422 –> 00:35:51.422
that is going to be,
00:35:51.782 –> 00:35:53.625
if I throw a hundred pitches by the third,
00:35:53.664 –> 00:35:55.407
I throw a hundred pitches by the third.
00:35:55.947 –> 00:35:58.489
And how is that a better pitch?
00:35:59.289 –> 00:36:02.530
scenario you know I i was I
00:36:02.550 –> 00:36:04.070
was dancing around the
00:36:04.110 –> 00:36:05.472
strike zone at 100 miles an
00:36:05.512 –> 00:36:07.231
hour better completely
00:36:07.311 –> 00:36:08.873
leave this congestion
00:36:08.893 –> 00:36:09.932
because I think it really
00:36:10.012 –> 00:36:10.952
is more an injury thing but
00:36:10.972 –> 00:36:11.853
leave leave the injury
00:36:11.893 –> 00:36:13.893
category what is your
00:36:13.954 –> 00:36:17.474
proposal for offense for
00:36:17.614 –> 00:36:20.235
offense I i don’t care i
00:36:22.045 –> 00:36:23.806
My proposal is I feel like
00:36:23.846 –> 00:36:24.947
they score enough runs.
00:36:26.327 –> 00:36:26.626
I mean,
00:36:26.728 –> 00:36:28.889
I’m bored by the amount of strikeouts,
00:36:29.309 –> 00:36:33.510
but that’s really because
00:36:33.530 –> 00:36:35.072
of the approach to offense
00:36:35.271 –> 00:36:36.112
more than anything.
00:36:36.813 –> 00:36:38.313
We’re in the launch angle era.
00:36:38.454 –> 00:36:40.594
So the strikeouts, you know,
00:36:41.315 –> 00:36:42.876
the three true outcomes is
00:36:42.976 –> 00:36:43.896
pretty big still.
00:36:44.677 –> 00:36:45.898
And pretty boring.
00:36:47.233 –> 00:36:47.893
It’s boring.
00:36:48.014 –> 00:36:50.655
So I don’t know that any of
00:36:50.875 –> 00:36:52.416
these changes actually put
00:36:52.516 –> 00:36:55.197
more balls in play because
00:36:55.237 –> 00:36:56.237
guys are still just going
00:36:56.257 –> 00:36:58.677
to try to hit it out of the park.
00:36:59.478 –> 00:37:02.179
If you move the fences back 20 feet,
00:37:02.800 –> 00:37:04.219
then maybe you have a world
00:37:04.260 –> 00:37:05.521
where guys are like, okay,
00:37:05.581 –> 00:37:07.362
it’s really hard to hit it out.
00:37:08.621 –> 00:37:10.143
So let me try to figure out
00:37:10.222 –> 00:37:11.322
something to do here.
00:37:11.342 –> 00:37:13.503
I guess you could try…
00:37:14.755 –> 00:37:16.655
deadening the ball,
00:37:16.695 –> 00:37:19.376
which will give you more balls in play,
00:37:19.436 –> 00:37:20.576
but it won’t necessarily
00:37:20.675 –> 00:37:22.016
give you more runs.
00:37:22.655 –> 00:37:24.277
And if what Major League
00:37:24.297 –> 00:37:25.836
Baseball wants is run
00:37:25.896 –> 00:37:28.416
production when they say offense.
00:37:28.536 –> 00:37:28.797
I mean,
00:37:28.956 –> 00:37:30.137
run production is what they care about.
00:37:30.177 –> 00:37:32.378
That’s the statistics that you get shown.
00:37:32.418 –> 00:37:32.978
You know,
00:37:33.077 –> 00:37:35.018
it’s 4.2 runs instead of 4.5
00:37:35.018 –> 00:37:35.898
three years ago or whatever.
00:37:36.498 –> 00:37:36.679
No,
00:37:37.039 –> 00:37:38.659
I think what they really want is balls
00:37:38.699 –> 00:37:39.059
in play.
00:37:39.978 –> 00:37:41.360
Balls in play are fun.
00:37:41.860 –> 00:37:43.679
Balls not in play are not.
00:37:45.425 –> 00:37:46.547
It’s a spectator sport,
00:37:46.806 –> 00:37:48.389
and from a spectator’s point of view,
00:37:48.869 –> 00:37:49.829
watching strikeouts,
00:37:50.289 –> 00:37:51.271
unless you’re counting them
00:37:51.530 –> 00:37:53.612
for somebody who’s off the set of record,
00:37:54.052 –> 00:37:54.514
is dull.
00:37:55.755 –> 00:37:57.817
Watching wonks is dull.
00:37:58.677 –> 00:38:00.177
And yes, there are home runs,
00:38:00.278 –> 00:38:01.960
and they happen to be for your team.
00:38:02.000 –> 00:38:02.340
That’s fun.
00:38:02.400 –> 00:38:03.300
Oh, look how far it went.
00:38:03.780 –> 00:38:05.322
But basically,
00:38:05.463 –> 00:38:06.903
that’s not real exciting either.
00:38:06.983 –> 00:38:08.525
It doesn’t keep the game flowing.
00:38:08.826 –> 00:38:10.527
Nobody’s running around.
00:38:10.547 –> 00:38:11.547
There aren’t plays made.
00:38:11.568 –> 00:38:12.969
Nobody’s trying to throw a guy out.
00:38:13.407 –> 00:38:14.206
when the ball was in the
00:38:14.246 –> 00:38:15.367
center field bleachers.
00:38:17.268 –> 00:38:21.130
So they need something for balls.
00:38:21.210 –> 00:38:22.072
Deadening the ball is
00:38:22.092 –> 00:38:22.851
certainly a possibility.
00:38:22.911 –> 00:38:24.092
I like your 20 feet back.
00:38:24.112 –> 00:38:24.333
Of course,
00:38:24.373 –> 00:38:25.193
nobody’s going to do that
00:38:25.213 –> 00:38:26.793
because you have to change every stadium.
00:38:27.795 –> 00:38:28.715
The owners are not going to
00:38:28.735 –> 00:38:29.635
go to that expense.
00:38:29.675 –> 00:38:30.795
They are not going to go to
00:38:30.835 –> 00:38:32.257
that expense and lose those seats.
00:38:33.853 –> 00:38:36.697
Which is a bummer because, you know, well,
00:38:36.898 –> 00:38:37.518
then you’re going to have
00:38:37.559 –> 00:38:38.740
the people who come out and say, well,
00:38:38.780 –> 00:38:40.061
now no one’s hitting home runs.
00:38:40.483 –> 00:38:43.427
So now home run numbers, guys,
00:38:43.626 –> 00:38:45.769
the league leaders are hitting 30.
00:38:45.769 –> 00:38:48.193
They’re not hitting 70 like they used to.
00:38:48.554 –> 00:38:49.554
And they’re not hitting 50.
00:38:50.846 –> 00:38:52.067
uh except for otani all of
00:38:52.086 –> 00:38:53.827
his are 450 feet anyway so
00:38:53.847 –> 00:38:55.309
what difference is pretty
00:38:55.369 –> 00:38:57.170
safe no matter what otani
00:38:57.190 –> 00:38:59.130
would do well in in my new
00:38:59.211 –> 00:39:00.632
version where everyone I
00:39:00.652 –> 00:39:01.713
mean that’s like one of the
00:39:01.773 –> 00:39:03.293
few things you make it
00:39:03.333 –> 00:39:04.815
harder to hit a home run
00:39:05.476 –> 00:39:06.675
and people won’t hit home
00:39:06.735 –> 00:39:08.938
runs make it harder to hit
00:39:08.978 –> 00:39:10.739
a home run and maybe
00:39:10.818 –> 00:39:12.019
pitchers won’t feel like
00:39:12.039 –> 00:39:13.440
they have to throw it a hundred
00:39:14.221 –> 00:39:16.202
because but then you have
00:39:16.242 –> 00:39:17.882
the other side which is if
00:39:17.922 –> 00:39:18.963
you throw it 100 it’s
00:39:19.443 –> 00:39:20.423
actually a lot easier to
00:39:20.463 –> 00:39:21.985
hit a home run if you make
00:39:22.065 –> 00:39:24.385
contact you know a ball
00:39:24.425 –> 00:39:25.865
coming in at 100 that meets
00:39:25.945 –> 00:39:30.034
a swing that’s at 98.
00:39:30.034 –> 00:39:31.255
Yeah.
00:39:31.735 –> 00:39:34.199
So, I mean, deadening the ball, which,
00:39:34.239 –> 00:39:34.579
of course,
00:39:34.900 –> 00:39:35.842
a lot of people are going to
00:39:35.862 –> 00:39:36.663
hate the idea.
00:39:37.403 –> 00:39:38.244
Pitchers will not.
00:39:38.585 –> 00:39:39.626
They will not hate the idea.
00:39:40.827 –> 00:39:42.230
Moving the fences back,
00:39:43.030 –> 00:39:45.795
which is also very complicated because…
00:39:46.675 –> 00:39:48.496
There aren’t rules in Major
00:39:48.516 –> 00:39:49.717
League Baseball on the size
00:39:49.757 –> 00:39:51.958
of the field and what that means.
00:39:52.018 –> 00:39:55.280
So if Houston’s got to move their wall,
00:39:55.340 –> 00:39:55.920
well, first off,
00:39:55.940 –> 00:39:56.900
you can’t move their left
00:39:56.940 –> 00:39:58.101
field wall 20 feet back
00:39:58.181 –> 00:39:59.001
because then you don’t have
00:39:59.021 –> 00:40:00.922
seats in left field because
00:40:00.963 –> 00:40:02.023
theirs is such a joke.
00:40:02.063 –> 00:40:02.744
What about Boston?
00:40:02.764 –> 00:40:03.505
You don’t have anything.
00:40:03.545 –> 00:40:06.266
You’ve got a wall sitting in
00:40:06.306 –> 00:40:07.427
the middle of the Charles River.
00:40:08.463 –> 00:40:09.826
Moving the monster back there.
00:40:10.766 –> 00:40:11.688
First off,
00:40:11.827 –> 00:40:13.990
what an operation to move the
00:40:14.030 –> 00:40:14.652
monster back.
00:40:14.771 –> 00:40:16.974
But I love the idea that you
00:40:16.994 –> 00:40:18.317
can either move it back or
00:40:18.356 –> 00:40:19.378
you can raise the height.
00:40:19.878 –> 00:40:21.059
And I love the idea that the
00:40:21.099 –> 00:40:22.481
green monster is now 100 feet high.
00:40:24.099 –> 00:40:25.420
Where it’s actually just,
00:40:25.519 –> 00:40:26.240
then we’re going to see
00:40:26.280 –> 00:40:27.922
moonshots come into play again.
00:40:27.943 –> 00:40:31.646
And that’s kind of a fun idea.
00:40:32.387 –> 00:40:34.688
I don’t know what the answer is.
00:40:35.228 –> 00:40:37.150
Outside of deadening the
00:40:37.170 –> 00:40:38.291
ball and making it harder
00:40:38.311 –> 00:40:39.193
to hit the ball out of the
00:40:39.233 –> 00:40:40.534
park so that guys have to
00:40:41.554 –> 00:40:42.976
learn to bat like Tony Gwynn.
00:40:45.297 –> 00:40:46.139
I truly don’t know.
00:40:46.159 –> 00:40:47.599
I don’t have an answer for
00:40:47.659 –> 00:40:48.360
how to make this work.
00:40:48.460 –> 00:40:49.802
But the way it is right now,
00:40:49.981 –> 00:40:50.702
it’s pretty boring.
00:40:50.722 –> 00:40:51.663
What you were just saying a
00:40:51.702 –> 00:40:53.505
moment ago is a cheaper
00:40:53.565 –> 00:40:55.226
version of the move the fences back,
00:40:55.266 –> 00:40:56.606
which they’re just not going to do,
00:40:57.768 –> 00:40:58.367
would be,
00:40:58.768 –> 00:41:00.070
and you can’t raise the green monster,
00:41:00.110 –> 00:41:01.251
but raise,
00:41:02.672 –> 00:41:04.353
just like the Dodgers did when
00:41:04.373 –> 00:41:05.454
they first moved to L.A.
00:41:05.514 –> 00:41:07.715
and they had that 220-foot
00:41:07.755 –> 00:41:08.695
porch or whatever it was
00:41:08.775 –> 00:41:09.456
out in left field.
00:41:09.896 –> 00:41:11.157
And while they moved, we’d just go beep.
00:41:12.780 –> 00:41:14.661
But to put a big high fence up,
00:41:16.985 –> 00:41:18.186
and that does not absorb so
00:41:18.226 –> 00:41:19.708
that it would come back in the field.
00:41:19.748 –> 00:41:21.329
And then that guy’s running the bases,
00:41:21.429 –> 00:41:22.570
just like at the green monster.
00:41:22.871 –> 00:41:23.972
It goes off the green monster.
00:41:24.012 –> 00:41:24.652
That guy’s running.
00:41:24.672 –> 00:41:26.135
The bases could very well
00:41:26.155 –> 00:41:28.016
get thrown out at second exciting play.
00:41:28.577 –> 00:41:29.197
Uh, you know,
00:41:29.217 –> 00:41:30.278
if you’ve got a good left fielder,
00:41:30.298 –> 00:41:31.179
he can get some guys.
00:41:31.960 –> 00:41:35.784
Uh, but that would help some, uh,
00:41:35.885 –> 00:41:38.867
get some outfield play going, uh,
00:41:39.599 –> 00:41:41.340
But if you’re going to raise the wall,
00:41:41.840 –> 00:41:43.222
you have the same issues
00:41:43.262 –> 00:41:45.023
that you have with owners if you say,
00:41:45.063 –> 00:41:46.025
I want to push it back.
00:41:46.525 –> 00:41:47.947
Which is if you raise the wall,
00:41:48.327 –> 00:41:49.487
then their options are to
00:41:49.688 –> 00:41:51.030
eliminate a bunch of seats
00:41:51.630 –> 00:41:53.251
or to raise all the seats.
00:41:53.271 –> 00:41:54.172
I would make it a fence.
00:41:54.293 –> 00:41:56.795
I would make it like a mesh fence.
00:41:57.936 –> 00:42:00.197
Just like we have behind the plate now.
00:42:01.139 –> 00:42:02.119
Nobody complains about being
00:42:02.159 –> 00:42:02.780
able to get the game from
00:42:02.800 –> 00:42:03.380
behind the plate.
00:42:05.313 –> 00:42:06.054
I think people would
00:42:06.094 –> 00:42:07.074
complain about being all
00:42:07.094 –> 00:42:08.135
the way in the outfield and
00:42:08.175 –> 00:42:09.695
having to look through a fence.
00:42:10.416 –> 00:42:11.137
I mean,
00:42:11.217 –> 00:42:13.958
people will complain about any of this.
00:42:14.478 –> 00:42:15.559
All people do is complain.
00:42:15.679 –> 00:42:16.661
So people will complain
00:42:16.701 –> 00:42:17.742
about any of these things.
00:42:18.922 –> 00:42:22.005
But yeah, I’m just not sure.
00:42:23.746 –> 00:42:24.445
I’m not sure,
00:42:24.505 –> 00:42:26.427
but we are about out of time today,
00:42:26.507 –> 00:42:27.688
so we will leave this
00:42:27.789 –> 00:42:28.969
question unanswered.
00:42:29.030 –> 00:42:30.331
We did not have a perfect
00:42:30.371 –> 00:42:32.092
solution for you today here
00:42:32.231 –> 00:42:33.052
on Sharing Socks,
00:42:33.432 –> 00:42:34.813
which I know is shocking.
00:42:35.114 –> 00:42:36.655
We almost always end with a
00:42:36.715 –> 00:42:37.956
perfect solution on how to
00:42:37.996 –> 00:42:39.416
fix everything in baseball,
00:42:39.998 –> 00:42:41.039
but today we will not.
00:42:41.079 –> 00:42:42.059
Do you have any final
00:42:42.199 –> 00:42:43.621
thoughts before we sign off?
00:42:44.300 –> 00:42:44.501
Well,
00:42:44.561 –> 00:42:46.402
just one stat on something that I was
00:42:46.463 –> 00:42:49.505
working on to write tomorrow.
00:42:50.226 –> 00:42:51.947
Aloy Jimenez said,
00:42:52.478 –> 00:42:55.860
in Baltimore is hitting 414
00:42:55.860 –> 00:42:57.882
with a 916 OPS.
00:43:00.405 –> 00:43:01.606
Holy cow.
00:43:01.766 –> 00:43:02.726
With the White Sox,
00:43:03.248 –> 00:43:09.574
he was hitting 240 with a 642 OPS.
00:43:11.114 –> 00:43:11.434
Wow.
00:43:12.335 –> 00:43:13.436
Most of the players who went,
00:43:13.516 –> 00:43:15.219
and this is what the piece is about, have
00:43:15.925 –> 00:43:16.766
improved quite a bit.
00:43:16.786 –> 00:43:18.507
The exception is Eric Fetty,
00:43:18.829 –> 00:43:19.590
who’s gone the other way.
00:43:19.969 –> 00:43:22.552
But most of them have become
00:43:22.612 –> 00:43:24.536
much happier playing for a competitor.
00:43:26.998 –> 00:43:28.139
Kopech’s got Cy Young
00:43:28.199 –> 00:43:29.822
numbers going on over in LA.
00:43:31.443 –> 00:43:32.385
Wow, that is crazy.
00:43:32.445 –> 00:43:33.306
And Trevor Banks is doing
00:43:33.346 –> 00:43:35.168
extremely well in Philadelphia.
00:43:35.864 –> 00:43:36.005
Yeah,
00:43:36.045 –> 00:43:37.867
I got to see him pitch for the
00:43:37.907 –> 00:43:39.268
Phillies when they were here in L.A.
00:43:39.288 –> 00:43:39.827
That was cool.
00:43:39.847 –> 00:43:40.929
It was fun cheering for him.
00:43:42.690 –> 00:43:43.590
Yeah, wow.
00:43:43.851 –> 00:43:46.193
That Eloy thing is wild.
00:43:47.173 –> 00:43:47.974
That’s telling.
00:43:48.514 –> 00:43:51.478
That is telling, that one right there.
00:43:51.518 –> 00:43:54.119
Maybe it’ll level out, but oh, man.
00:43:54.139 –> 00:43:55.880
It’s an incredibly small sample size.
00:43:55.920 –> 00:43:57.121
He said 29 at-bats,
00:43:57.202 –> 00:44:00.125
but it’s still fun to consider that.
00:44:01.222 –> 00:44:01.422
Yeah,
00:44:01.603 –> 00:44:02.965
and it makes me happy for Aloy
00:44:02.985 –> 00:44:04.706
because we all love Aloy.
00:44:04.947 –> 00:44:06.048
He’s a jolly guy.
00:44:06.088 –> 00:44:07.010
Make him jollier.
00:44:07.992 –> 00:44:08.952
Yeah, exactly.
00:44:09.052 –> 00:44:10.514
I’d love to see him migrate.
00:44:11.376 –> 00:44:12.496
That’s a lot of hits, right?
00:44:14.239 –> 00:44:15.460
Hasn’t pulled his hamstring
00:44:15.501 –> 00:44:17.222
on the way to first base a single time.
00:44:18.065 –> 00:44:18.947
Well, now he’s doomed.
00:44:19.507 –> 00:44:20.007
Now he’s doomed.
00:44:20.268 –> 00:44:20.527
You know,
00:44:20.568 –> 00:44:22.489
I hear they make you stretch in Baltimore,
00:44:22.570 –> 00:44:23.269
so that could have
00:44:23.309 –> 00:44:24.311
something to do with it.
00:44:24.871 –> 00:44:25.692
I don’t think they make you
00:44:25.731 –> 00:44:26.773
stretch in Chicago.
00:44:27.693 –> 00:44:28.855
So that could be it.
00:44:29.255 –> 00:44:30.856
Well, we are out of time for today.
00:44:31.217 –> 00:44:32.438
Thanks so much for listening.
00:44:33.157 –> 00:44:34.699
It’ll be interesting to see how many,
00:44:34.840 –> 00:44:35.219
if any,
00:44:35.300 –> 00:44:37.661
wins we have the next time we are back.
00:44:38.443 –> 00:44:39.603
But we look forward to it,
00:44:39.643 –> 00:44:40.605
and we will catch you next
00:44:40.664 –> 00:44:43.027
time right here on Sharing Socks.
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